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	<title>Comments on: Disappointed by Ganymede</title>
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	<description>A tech blog by Luigi R. Viggiano</description>
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		<title>By: Alex</title>
		<link>http://en.newinstance.it/2008/07/02/disappointed-by-ganymede/comment-page-1/#comment-335615</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jun 2009 09:03:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A year have passed. Now it is Version: 3.4.2. Windows version.

Totally hang ups on trying to update\install plugins. Even sometimes just Java source file gives a hang.

F@ck Eclipse. Goto back to IntelliJ.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A year have passed. Now it is Version: 3.4.2. Windows version.</p>
<p>Totally hang ups on trying to update\install plugins. Even sometimes just Java source file gives a hang.</p>
<p>F@ck Eclipse. Goto back to IntelliJ.</p>
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		<title>By: Sam Goldberg</title>
		<link>http://en.newinstance.it/2008/07/02/disappointed-by-ganymede/comment-page-1/#comment-305095</link>
		<dc:creator>Sam Goldberg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 20:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to agree that the Ganymede release is really buggy.  Eclipse has gone Microsoft, so to speak.

This is the 4th or 5th version of Eclipse I have used, and it is by far the worst.  It frequently hangs - which is by far the worst problem.  It inexplicably starts building the workspace even when nothing has change.  The UpdateManager also hangs, and is very slow.

I&#039;m guessing that the root cause of all the problems are due to network latency, caused when different plugins try to access the internet.  Probably especially MyLyn, and also probably the Data collection utility.  And what&#039;s so frustrating is that it&#039;s not clear to me how to disable/uninstall these things.

Eclipse has now become heavy-weight, slow, and like Microsoft, hides processes from the user, so that it is difficult to disable the causes of the instability.

A BIG THUMBS DOWN for this release!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to agree that the Ganymede release is really buggy.  Eclipse has gone Microsoft, so to speak.</p>
<p>This is the 4th or 5th version of Eclipse I have used, and it is by far the worst.  It frequently hangs &#8211; which is by far the worst problem.  It inexplicably starts building the workspace even when nothing has change.  The UpdateManager also hangs, and is very slow.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m guessing that the root cause of all the problems are due to network latency, caused when different plugins try to access the internet.  Probably especially MyLyn, and also probably the Data collection utility.  And what&#8217;s so frustrating is that it&#8217;s not clear to me how to disable/uninstall these things.</p>
<p>Eclipse has now become heavy-weight, slow, and like Microsoft, hides processes from the user, so that it is difficult to disable the causes of the instability.</p>
<p>A BIG THUMBS DOWN for this release!</p>
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		<title>By: Joe</title>
		<link>http://en.newinstance.it/2008/07/02/disappointed-by-ganymede/comment-page-1/#comment-273999</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 18:39:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I too am disappointed with eclipse, specifically the update manager. 
I guess the new Equinox p2 is junk. Here are directions to remove it.
http://wiki.eclipse.org/Equinox_p2_Removal

I&#039;ve also had times where my maven dependencies fail to show up yet they are clearly there. Restarting eclipse usually fixes this issues.

I&#039;m sure bugs were opened against it, but I can&#039;t get update manger to work, even with the link I provided above.

Falling back to Europa.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I too am disappointed with eclipse, specifically the update manager.<br />
I guess the new Equinox p2 is junk. Here are directions to remove it.<br />
<a href="http://wiki.eclipse.org/Equinox_p2_Removal" rel="nofollow">http://wiki.eclipse.org/Equinox_p2_Removal</a></p>
<p>I&#8217;ve also had times where my maven dependencies fail to show up yet they are clearly there. Restarting eclipse usually fixes this issues.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure bugs were opened against it, but I can&#8217;t get update manger to work, even with the link I provided above.</p>
<p>Falling back to Europa.</p>
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		<title>By: Nash</title>
		<link>http://en.newinstance.it/2008/07/02/disappointed-by-ganymede/comment-page-1/#comment-259796</link>
		<dc:creator>Nash</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2008 18:10:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well am totally dissapointed by the javascript editor. Make one mistake and save it, and wham the IDE crashes!! And it happens so many times. the intellisense is good, but I expected a solid JavaScript editor which doesn&#039;t crash so often.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well am totally dissapointed by the javascript editor. Make one mistake and save it, and wham the IDE crashes!! And it happens so many times. the intellisense is good, but I expected a solid JavaScript editor which doesn&#8217;t crash so often.</p>
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		<title>By: ilda</title>
		<link>http://en.newinstance.it/2008/07/02/disappointed-by-ganymede/comment-page-1/#comment-251237</link>
		<dc:creator>ilda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 12:07:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thanks al - installing from that polarian update site worked for me too!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thanks al &#8211; installing from that polarian update site worked for me too!</p>
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		<title>By: Luigi</title>
		<link>http://en.newinstance.it/2008/07/02/disappointed-by-ganymede/comment-page-1/#comment-250843</link>
		<dc:creator>Luigi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2008 15:07:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Jim.

I think your url is doing pretty much what I wrote &lt;a href=&quot;http://it.newinstance.it/2008/09/03/ganymede-and-subversive-finally-got-installed-and-working/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.
Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Jim.</p>
<p>I think your url is doing pretty much what I wrote <a href="http://it.newinstance.it/2008/09/03/ganymede-and-subversive-finally-got-installed-and-working/" rel="nofollow">here</a>.<br />
Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Cripe</title>
		<link>http://en.newinstance.it/2008/07/02/disappointed-by-ganymede/comment-page-1/#comment-250814</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim Cripe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2008 13:50:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The directions in this article fixed the SVN connector version problems I was having:
http://thecoffeemachine.wordpress.com/2008/08/20/subversive-in-eclipse-ganymede/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The directions in this article fixed the SVN connector version problems I was having:<br />
<a href="http://thecoffeemachine.wordpress.com/2008/08/20/subversive-in-eclipse-ganymede/" rel="nofollow">http://thecoffeemachine.wordpress.com/2008/08/20/subversive-in-eclipse-ganymede/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Ganymede and Subversive, finally got installed and working - NewInstance</title>
		<link>http://en.newinstance.it/2008/07/02/disappointed-by-ganymede/comment-page-1/#comment-250229</link>
		<dc:creator>Ganymede and Subversive, finally got installed and working - NewInstance</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 12:46:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Finally, after many problmes, I got Suversive working on Ganymede. So here I report what you have to do, if you want to do the same. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Finally, after many problmes, I got Suversive working on Ganymede. So here I report what you have to do, if you want to do the same. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: enimanev</title>
		<link>http://en.newinstance.it/2008/07/02/disappointed-by-ganymede/comment-page-1/#comment-244028</link>
		<dc:creator>enimanev</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 21:27:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey guys,
  I&#039;m having similar frustrating experience with Ganymede. One thing however about Subversive - the connectors won&#039;t work if you installed the SVN command line tool after the Eclipse plugin. The only solution then is to uninstall the plugins/install svn.exe/reinstall the Subversive plugins again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey guys,<br />
  I&#8217;m having similar frustrating experience with Ganymede. One thing however about Subversive &#8211; the connectors won&#8217;t work if you installed the SVN command line tool after the Eclipse plugin. The only solution then is to uninstall the plugins/install svn.exe/reinstall the Subversive plugins again.</p>
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		<title>By: Ganymede and Subversive the nightmare continues - NewInstance</title>
		<link>http://en.newinstance.it/2008/07/02/disappointed-by-ganymede/comment-page-1/#comment-242758</link>
		<dc:creator>Ganymede and Subversive the nightmare continues - NewInstance</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 11:55:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I blogged before about how bad is the choice to &quot;incubate&quot; Subversive in Eclipse. Friday evening I wasted much time to find a tutorial on Eclipse and Polarion site explaining how to install Subversive in Ganymede. No way: Eclipse site point to Polarion and Polarion site points to Eclipse site, and both of them are outdated, the provided update links aren&#039;t working. Googling around I finally found a site with a working url. Saying &quot;working&quot; I mean a url that at least lets me to install the plugin successfully. Infact, it installs fine, but now everytime I commit I get an error: [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] I blogged before about how bad is the choice to &#8220;incubate&#8221; Subversive in Eclipse. Friday evening I wasted much time to find a tutorial on Eclipse and Polarion site explaining how to install Subversive in Ganymede. No way: Eclipse site point to Polarion and Polarion site points to Eclipse site, and both of them are outdated, the provided update links aren&#8217;t working. Googling around I finally found a site with a working url. Saying &#8220;working&#8221; I mean a url that at least lets me to install the plugin successfully. Infact, it installs fine, but now everytime I commit I get an error: [...]</p>
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